Half Century Hangout
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We were hanging out in Luke's garage and we had a lot of fun. Our conversation got long, so we split this episode up into two parts. Thanks for coming back and listening to part two. I hope you guys enjoy. Peace out. Yeah, so have you guys seen um they've taken X-rays or some type of some type of uh scope of the ground underneath the um pyramids. Have you guys seen anything about this? To where there's I remember hearing it, but I don't remember what they there's like levels supposedly below the pyramids, yeah, to where there's like reservoirs and all these different types of things that would kind of maybe say that this was designed by powers outside of the knowledge of people who existed at the time that the pyramids were built. Have you guys heard anything about that? Yeah, I've I've heard stuff about that. What are your thoughts?
SPEAKER_00:I don't know. Well, uh, are you talking about ancient aliens, maybe? Possibly, I don't know.
SPEAKER_04:It's super interesting. This is one of the things that I think, and I've always thought this is that I don't think that we have given to people of ancient times credit for how smart they damn were. Yeah. I mean, just the fact that look at the pyramids.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:Oh my god, I've never been there. It's it's on my list of things to go see someday. So have you seen it in pictures? You see things and you see these things, but it's like, you know what? I'm not gonna sit here and say they really didn't have the thought or the ability. Like you think of those stones that they're moving, and they didn't have you know stuff like we have now, obviously. This is manpower.
SPEAKER_03:Right.
SPEAKER_00:Thousands of people of thousands of millions of pounds of stone that they're moving, and below all of that stuff that they built is this series of like reservoirs or different theories there that maybe it could have been a power plant, maybe it could have been this or that.
SPEAKER_04:I mean, there's there's a lot of I mean, you've been over there, you've been over to the Holy Land and you've seen things and some historical places that I've never been to, but I've always thought I don't know that I'm going the alien route yet, but I think that they had more knowledge and ability that we give them credit for. Yeah. I really do, because it's I mean, look at look at ancient Egypt, look at Moses going through the things that and I realize it's Hollywood eyes, like you see it in the movies. Sure. It's different, but in the same breath, look at the plagues, like as they went through, they were trying to defend against these things, right? Like you see this stuff, and like today, like when I heard that thing, and I I do remember now, like I'm I'm thinking as as I'm going, maybe that was a fallout shelter, maybe that was something that they thought they were going to be invaded, they were gonna, they had they had enemies, and they were building something like under the east wing. Sorry, I didn't say that, but you know what, under the east wing, where there's a there's a place, right? Right, you know, yeah, who knows? They still had the same thoughts, yeah. You know what I mean?
SPEAKER_03:So there's parts of the um Great Pyramids where there's like the the particular part of the pyramid points directly north, south, east, and west. Yeah, yeah. There's there's like these different things that exist um among these pyramids that would say that there's probably a little bit more intelligent design that's um affected uh through through this, other than what was available at the time. So what have you heard about that, John?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, I I I've heard that uh, you know, I don't know. I I do think that our ancestors were pretty smart. I think that we've got uh some influence, maybe sure from outside of our ancestors? Who knows? Yeah, I and uh I think that's a good mystery to to look at. And there's there's evidence on both sides of that that maybe it was just human, maybe it was outside of human.
SPEAKER_03:Well, how did it how in the world are they supposed to get these big, huge, major uh rocks from an area that was hundreds of miles away from where they were to where these pyramids are being built? Yeah, how in the world did that happen?
SPEAKER_00:Well, and not only the pyramids, but there's other places on earth that pyramids were built.
SPEAKER_03:Well, there may be that too, but then then you think of um what's the what's the um place over in England where Stonehenge like there's nothing anywhere even close to Stonehenge where these big rocks are like there's there's just nothing there, so there's kind of like an the idea that these things were brought in hundreds of miles as well. And what in the world did it mean to the particular people to the people at that particular time?
SPEAKER_04:Are we leaning toward the idea that you're talking about some sort of extraterrestrial?
SPEAKER_03:I don't I mean that dismiss it, sounds freaky, but yeah. It just seems Did you dismiss it? Miss what? Do you dismiss it? I don't dismiss it, no. I don't I don't know if that's the uh if that's the answer, but I don't dismiss that it couldn't be the answer, I guess.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, I've always been one that I think growing up was kind of always in the back of my head. But I kind of think, and I'm not you know throwing shade here, I think, but I think that um my uh my upbringing in the church kind of squashed pushed that away a little bit, yeah, yeah, which I understand, like I get it, but in the same breath, I think that now that I'm you know older and so much more mature than I was then, way more mature. Can I discount it? No, I don't think I can discount it.
SPEAKER_03:I don't think you can dismiss it.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah. I think that I think that there's a lot of things that have gone unanswered and unexplained, you know, to the point that there's gotta be another explanation, which sounds dumb. But I think that pardon me, folks. That was my torch, yes.
SPEAKER_03:Yes, making my uh making my uh making a smoked old fashioned smoked old fashioned.
SPEAKER_04:Um I think that the you know we could segue into that. I mean, is that is there evidence or is there believability in the extraterrestrial? Area 51. Is there I mean, you know, who knows if there is.
SPEAKER_00:I mean blue book, right? I mean, that's another mystery. You got uh the blue book. What's blue book? Oh, it's uh government agency that that um looked into the extraterrestrial. Yeah. And and looked into whether UFOs, whether extraterrestrials were real, and um the air force and yeah, I think that it's cover things up, who knows?
SPEAKER_04:I don't know. I think that there's there's there's a I hate to call it like a conspiracy theory because I don't know that when I think conspiracy theory, you're trying to cover something up, okay? Right. That's what I think in my head anyway. But if there's something that, especially back then, I mean I think it still happens now, but if there's something back then that the government that was there, the leaders that were there thought that it was harmful for the public to know, I don't know that necessarily covered it up, they just didn't say it. You can't do that now because now somebody's gonna leak it, somebody's gonna say something. Sure. Somebody's gonna be, you know, something, and it's just gonna happen. But I so I do think that at the time maybe people were really afraid of those things.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:I mean, I'm not gonna speak for you two, but if if I found out right now that, you know, in Ohio, because that's probably where it would happen, um, where a spaceship landed, would I be really afraid? I don't know that I would be afraid. I'd be more like inquisitive. Be like, what are they thinking? You know, what's going on? What's sure I and I think back then that I think that it was a lot of you know um melodrama, or there was, you know, just things happening where the the the drama was built to the point that oh my gosh, aliens. Right. Look at what was the movie with Orson Wells? Um you know, with the with the aliens with the whole thing. I forgot what the name of it was. But that's the kind of thing that you you heard about. Yeah, that you see. What about Sasquatch? What about him? What about that?
SPEAKER_00:Who knows? Washington State? Is that is Sasquatch a real thing? Gosh, that that's interesting to think about, isn't it? Luke, so Luke brought Sasquatch up. Um is that yours too? Me? A true false?
SPEAKER_03:I don't know. I've never really kind of bought in the whole idea of Sasquatch. Yeah, I've just never seen much proof um of it. But I what about Loch Ness?
SPEAKER_04:You know, it's kind of to me, those two are kind of the one and the same. Yeah. You know, where do I think that people saw stuff coming out of the water class, cryptids? Yeah, yeah. Who we we don't have any proof necessarily, but and I think that I think that that's the thing when we look at these things, and I don't always like to do this, but I but I you have to, I think, on some level, at least to explain some of the things as you go, is that you have to determine when these things took place initially, because the times are different, it's completely different than what they were even 20 years ago, let alone 40, 50 years ago. I mean, I I don't know when the initial Bigfoot or Sasquatch sighting started or what year that was, I don't know. But you know, I've I don't know about you, John, but I've been in places in the woods or out in places that were kind of rural, if you want to say, and seen people walking that if you were drinking enough, you could mistake them for somebody. You you could. You could, you know, there's all sorts of things where there's mind-altering drugs and all sorts of stuff that could have happened where you might see something. And I'm not trying to dismiss if somebody's a believer or not, or they saw something, but you know, it's kind of like the UFO thing. You know, do you see these things and they tried to back it off that it's weather balloons or it's this or all these different explanations that came up?
SPEAKER_03:So here's what I know about some of that stuff. If you guys ever go to Dayton, Ohio, uh in Dayton, listen help me.
SPEAKER_02:God helped me. Who grew up there? Promised land, promised land.
SPEAKER_03:Anyway, there's a place called uh the Wright Patterson Air Force Museum. It's now been nicknamed the United States Air Force Museum or renamed, I guess. So in that place, there is actually a flying saucer that at some point was experimental.
SPEAKER_02:Okay.
SPEAKER_03:And I'm wondering if some of these things that people see when you hear about is just like experimental. Yeah, 100%.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, 100%. I mean, look at how many times, even now, that you see in these war things that we've had with Israel and with all these, you see all of a sudden there's a new aircraft. Like somebody came, and like we don't know these things day to day, right? We don't know these things, and it's okay because I got plenty of other things to think about, right? But you know darn well that at some point they're testing these things, they have to. 100%. Yeah, so they go through and they figure it out, and so they have to take it on test flights, or they have to do whatever they have to do. I mean, there's a lot of explanations that could be that are very valid to me that would explain, not explain it away, but say, like, hey, this is a really good possibility that this is what it was, or yeah, you know, something like that. Yes, I don't I don't fall away from those things to see, and I and even even Area 51, it was like, do I think that something was there? I don't know, maybe an asteroid hit it. I don't know. It could be anything, yeah. I mean, I love the movie The Thing, which is a great movie. Have you ever seen that?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, I have. It's like did you see the original? Yeah, back in the 80s.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, no, no, no, that's not the original. The original was like in the 60s.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, I didn't see that one.
SPEAKER_04:Black and white. Oh, it's great. And and and the the remake in the 80s is wonderful, don't get me wrong. Sure. Kurt Russell in it and all that. Sure. But the idea is that they were the ones they were in Antarctica or one of the polar ice gaps, and the whole thing was in the ice and all that stuff. Like it was great because it just kind of built this whole thing. And do you think yeah, do you think for a moment that that's not possible? Yeah, the stuff could be hitting the earth since who knows when.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, who knows when we've kind of come to this with a lot of our communication, right? With television, with uh movies, with in the last century or so. And a lot of that thought has come about because of that. Is it because maybe we are looking for those things? We're curious about them, and we're saying, ah, maybe it could have been aliens, maybe it could have been demons, maybe it could have been the mob, yeah, whatever, yeah, and we're saying, oh, all this stuff is brought to us by maybe the history channel, or the media, whatever it is, I mean and we're like, huh. I'm theory. There's a theory that uh you go out to buy a car, you're looking for a car, you're looking for a red Honda, you start seeing a lot of red Hondas that people are driving.
SPEAKER_03:That's interesting.
SPEAKER_00:And so is it because people are bringing it to us that we're gonna do that?
SPEAKER_04:Well, we already know now we know now that they have things algorithms. Algorithms, yeah. If you're talking about red Hondas, your marketplace is gonna get red hondas. Yeah. If you're looking for, you know, where did we land on the nail salons?
SPEAKER_03:Where do we land on the Sasquatch?
SPEAKER_04:Where do we land?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, do we land anywhere?
SPEAKER_04:So I don't know. I he's in the spaceship. I don't really have one with him. I I don't really have one with yeah, it could be her. I don't know. I I don't I never thought that one had as much legs. Yeah, I didn't. I mean, I think that people that one's hard to prove. Yeah, people see stuff, and I and I get it. People see stuff. I mean, shit happens. Yeah, it just does. I mean, yeah, you've been places, we've all been places where it's like explicit. Something really captain. I know something happens, and you're like, holy crap, I didn't think that was gonna happen. Yeah, so that could be. I mean, there's a lot of things that that happen in our world.
SPEAKER_00:So so think about this.
SPEAKER_04:Oh, John's on the roll.
SPEAKER_00:This is still John here. Um things happen in our world. Are we living in a matrix? Are we living? Oh, we went the matrix. I was gonna do this.
SPEAKER_04:I was gonna do this, but I didn't. But John did, so I feel better about it.
SPEAKER_00:So are we living in a computer generated simulation? And you know what? It's amazing, and I didn't know this, but there are some physicists who are trying to prove that we're living in a computer-generated simulation.
SPEAKER_03:So basically, we are um just a digital production.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, and does it those are great movies that by the way? I love those.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, great movies. The war what Warcheski Brothers?
SPEAKER_04:Yes, I can't remember. I think so. Yeah, I think that it's I think it's an interesting concept.
SPEAKER_00:It is because it is because I think that's you ever woke up from a deep sleep and said, Oh my gosh, was this a dream or was this reality? Which one was it? Like, like am I chasing the white rabbit or not? Yeah, yeah, I don't know. I feel weird.
SPEAKER_03:I don't I would be quicker to dismiss something like that just because I don't know. I don't, I don't know, I don't see much validation.
SPEAKER_04:But see, I think I think what the thing is, and I think I mentioned it before, yeah, and I can only speak for myself, but I'm gonna, you know, try to throw it your way and John your way too, is that I think we've been taught to think a certain way. Especially if you have religion in your in your life, okay, that this is why this happens, and this is what this is, and this is what's gonna happen, and these whole things. And you've been you've just been brought up that way. Program, maybe. Yeah, I don't want to go that way because that's a little that's a little matrix-y, yeah, but but sort of, there you go. Yeah, there you go. You know, you've been, I don't want to use that other word either. I was thinking of just a computer. What were you thinking of? The G word. No, I don't want to say groomed, I don't want to say that. Oh, yeah, no, no, no. But you're kind of like you've been brought up this way, you've been taught this way, you've learned things this way. Yeah. Like we see this with kids all the time, right? You see it with kids 100%. But if they are, if they are traumatized somehow in their younger life or their family was, they think a certain way. Like our thoughts and our feelings are drawn by our upbringing. Sure. Whether we like it or not. It just is just the way that it is. So when that movie comes out and it brings out this thing, like we're just a we're a blip in a program. Right. And really, this is kind of the way that things are going. And it makes you think like, huh. And all of a sudden you start to think of, well, I remember when that happened, or I remember when that happened. Yeah. Maybe that's drawing me like this. You know, who knows? Think think about how much, think about how much influence. Now, again, I'll speak for myself is that how much influence people that are gone, people that have died, how much influence they still have on your life. It's kind of an amazing concept if you think about it, because it's like, well, are you living in the past? I don't want to say you're living in the past, but the lessons that you think that you learned or the things, the things that were presented to you, they still have an effect on my day-to-day life. Yeah. That lends itself to that idea that guess what? The matrix kind of refreshes the memory as it goes, right? But it's still here, it's still based there. It's a it's an interesting one. Right. It is. I'm not sold, but it's it's interesting one.
SPEAKER_00:We have generations that happen, and it kind of does cycle, right?
SPEAKER_04:It does.
SPEAKER_00:Generations cycle, and you grow up with this generation, and then you have another generation that grows up a little different, and it kind of does cycle through.
SPEAKER_03:It does, and it's interesting to me because as I've like as I think of uh my philosophy classes throughout college or whatever, and you look at um nihilism. I don't know if you guys know what nihilism is. Yeah, but nihilism is that understanding that things kind of um they're for no reason or they kind of end. Um this kind of promotes that idea of nihilism, in my in my opinion, that all these things exist because of this belief that things don't really matter.
SPEAKER_04:Well, it's I think, therefore I am. Yeah. Yeah. That's philosophy. That's like the whole idea. And it's like, okay, so if we're think that's why that's what I always went back to when we were talking about the pyramids and stuff, is that you know what people's thought, I don't think that the mind itself has changed from what it was in ancient times. People were still people, humans are still humans, they're there. They had the ability to think outside the box. Right. So outside the box is a pyramid, right? I mean, they think I I just don't think I I I always feel like we were, we've always been taught that we're like the epitome, the apex. And and that was when we were 20. Right. Now we're half century.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:And now we are. No, we're not. No, we're still not. But I don't know that it's necessarily our minds that are changing, it's just the ability to do all these other things based on technology or based on all this other stuff that nobody would have thought of back then. Right. I think the mind is still the same. I don't think that it's changing, I don't think it's evolving to the point of whatever it is. So I don't know. I think that uh if you get a chance, I know I just said the word evolving, which I don't usually say that word, but um those of you that are the same age as we are, you remember the band Devo?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, you know, step on a crack, break your mama's back. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Great, great, excellent documentary. Look it up. I think it's on Netflix. I think I can't remember what service it was on. But do you know what Devo was for? What was de-evolutionizing. Oh, and they were at like Kent State in the 60s, like that political underground. Oh my gosh, it's eye-opening. So good. And I thought it fit well into this episode just because it it just opens your mind to something else, to another possibility of some things that are going on. And like David Bowie's influence on incredible, absolutely incredible, and it's cool stuff, but I think for us, it's like that's one more thing to say, hey, I can broaden my mind, I can open my eyes to something else, yeah, and be like, hey, you know, if nothing else, it keeps your mind going. And at our age, that's a good thing because you know, we don't want to.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, at the end of the day, at the end of the day, for me, I would have to have some type of um like proof. I don't know, proof is not the right word, validation, some type of something that would say this this makes sense. So, like I trust that that um you know you talked about church stuff, right? And to me, that's kind of where my worldview starts is that God created a world and that uh anything that exists is because of him.
SPEAKER_04:Sure.
SPEAKER_03:So when you think of um aliens or conspiracies or whatever, there would have to be some type of conflict or some type of validation that this exists because God says this exists.
SPEAKER_00:Well, and I think I think what you gotta look what you're saying is you gotta look at both sides. Yeah, you gotta look at the arguments for, and you gotta look at the arguments against, yeah, which do happen, and there are people who argue for uh alternate reality or whatever it is, yeah, uh people who argue against that, people who argue for UFOs and and ancient aliens and whatever it is, and people who argue against that, Sasquatch, against even Jimmy Hoffa. There are theories there for different things, yeah. So you gotta look at both.
SPEAKER_04:Like as I was talking about the mind, and I don't know that it's changed the actual mind itself over the over the thousands of years, right? Do you think that they had theories back then? Of course they did, of course, because it's human curiosity that something happened because of this, or something's going to happen because this is happening. There's always going to be that. There always has been that, I think. Yeah. I think it's completely normal that with our current state of the world, that it lends itself because of that information that we get almost instantly. Yeah. Which actually kind of drives me nuts, to be honest with you. It does. Because you know what? I think that too many times we get our information from somebody or someplace or something that's already formed an opinion, they're just feeding that to us. Yeah. It's like propaganda, right? It's like coming out of an airplane. There the Germans are bombing and they're dropping leaflets. Yeah. It's propaganda. And I think that too many times, and we see this in education, that I think that we have lessened what we almost feel like our kids can do or what we can handle because of what we're fed, what we're giving to them and what they say. I mean, you've had conversations, we all have, with kids in our office and saying, like, so what are you thinking here? And they'll tell you something, and you're like, Well, that's a great way to think about it. Like, I hear you, like I understand you, but this is where our reality is. This is where we're at right now. Yeah. You know what I mean? And I think that reality piece is where this whole conversation falls a little bit because we have to be able to still ground ourselves in reality.
SPEAKER_03:I think reality is a a good word to kind of key in on because there are so there's so much speculation with um what we think that we gotta look at what reality is and what's what's been proven over the course of of time. And so none of these things that like Sasquash, it's not really ever been proven. What is reality, Chuck? Re what is reality? Honestly, that's a great question.
SPEAKER_04:Maybe that's the next episode. That might be what is reality, reality. Yeah, because I think you hit the nail on the head as I think that really all these things are based around that same idea. What is reality? What is real? What isn't real, or even what could be argued that is real? You know what I mean? Yep. And I hate to use the word argued because I think now especially it has a real negative term. Like we can't disagree without arguing and being negative. But I think that that would lend us to our next episode, which would be what do we think reality really means and what is it? That's what I think. All right.
SPEAKER_00:So if you have some uh maybe reality, what what is the truth? Yeah. It's like the X Files.
SPEAKER_04:So if you have some I love the X Files.
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SPEAKER_04:Gentlemen, I love today. Today was a great day. It was a great day. Super great day. Super great day. And you know what? That's all we gotta. We all just gotta hang out and just blow a little steam off. We hope that's what you do when you listen.
SPEAKER_00:It's good to spend time in Luke's garage. Yep, and we will be back next week, right? We will. Next week. Rock and roll. We're there.
SPEAKER_04:Peace out. Go blue.
