Half Century Hangout
Three guys from different backgrounds come together as good friends to share perspectives and learn from each other. We don't always have to agree, but we will listen and learn as we discuss various topics. We invite you to join us.
Half Century Hangout
North Stars and Daily Reflections
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Ever wondered how a simple shift in your guiding principles can transform your life? Join us as we share our journeys through life's complex labyrinth guided by our "North Stars." John opens up about his dramatic career transition from banking to education, driven by his commitment to family, faith, and the joy of helping others. His story of mentoring a struggling student reminds us of the profound impact a single act of guidance can have. We reflect on how these guiding stars can evolve, shifting like constellations, and stress the importance of focusing on what we can control amidst the chaos of uncertainty.
The art of listening can be a powerful tool in navigating life’s challenges, and we explore this in depth, drawing inspiration from mentors like Rick Click and fictional figures such as Ted Lasso. It's not just about hearing words but truly understanding them, a skill that can foster empathy and growth. We share personal anecdotes that highlight how mentors have shaped our paths, emphasizing the importance of recognizing and nurturing the strengths of those around us. These stories underscore the power of leadership through empathy, encouraging a culture of growth and understanding.
Amidst the serious conversations, we find joy in lighter topics like potential podcast names and preferred drinks, capturing the camaraderie found in bar conversations. From the tactile pleasure of a smoked Old Fashioned to the nostalgia of seasonal memories, we reveal snippets of our personalities. As we build our community, we invite you to join us, engage in lively discussions, and share in the warmth and wisdom of our shared experiences. Your support and involvement are vital as we embark on this journey together, exploring life's guiding principles and the joy of connection.
All right, we're live, Gentlemen.
Speaker 2:how are we today?
Speaker 3:Hey, pretty good, Luke Doing well, Yep doing great.
Speaker 2:You know, it's kind of one of those days where there's a lot of things going on. Today, I mean, we're not going to necessarily give what day it is, but, boy, I think by our conversation you're going to be able to tell what day it is that we recorded this.
Speaker 3:It is a very busy day, isn't it?
Speaker 2:Yep, a lot going on, a lot going on. What we have talked about and you heard it in our intro is we're just three guys that want to talk. I mean, we talk about different things. We talk about a lot of things that are happening not just in our lives but just everywhere. Right, the things that you hear about one day at a time, and we'll pick some topics and we'll move and we'll see where it takes us.
Speaker 1:Yeah, not quite sure where we're going with this, but I think it'll be a good time for us to. I love the part of our intro where we're actually, you know, wanting to learn and admit what we're wrong sometimes. So you know, I know there's a lot of areas in my life where I think I've been wrong before and maybe still am.
Speaker 2:And I think that's probably the biggest thing that we could lead into our first part of the conversation that we had talked about was to kind of define each of us, so you all can get to know us a little bit. Just kind of define where our North Star was. What guides our life, what guides us day by day? What do we think is important? What do we think is things that we work toward? What do we do? So, john, why don't we start with you? Start with me, sure.
Speaker 3:Let's start with you, north Star. What's my North Star? I think that the thing that guides me the most is probably family and helping others. I became an educator because I really wanted to help others, started out my life as a banker I don't know if that was helping others, but helping others buy things, buy houses, help them get to live on their own and all that kind of stuff but then moved into education, which is kind of a family tradition in my house. My dad, grandma, mom, sister, wife, everybody in my family seems to have something to do with education. So helping others and family big part of my life, and also my faith is a big part of my life too. So those are some North Stars.
Speaker 3:It's hard to define just one, it is the biggest one probably is the, uh, the helping others.
Speaker 1:Yeah, tell us a story like where you think you helped someone you know and it was like it not only made an impact on them, but it made an impact on you, wow. That's a uh kind of a tough one to think about.
Speaker 3:Um, so I guess from education, many, many kids in education over the years that I've been in education, one that really stands out is a kid that was really having a struggle coming to school, having a struggle being in school, having a struggle just being around people, and really took that person, that young man, under my wing and helped him to understand kind of how to work with people, how to be himself around people, and that people weren't necessarily—it's hard in schools hard in high school—but how people weren't necessarily looking at him and judging him it might have been him thinking some of those things right.
Speaker 1:So he's like had a perspective.
Speaker 3:Yeah, he had a different perspective and just taking that perspective and and showing him how it might. We might need to change that perspective a little bit and uh, it worked out really well. We got him school, got him working, uh graduated, just uh, a success story.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you see him much now.
Speaker 3:You know it was one of my stops, many stops in education, and it was. It was a ways away from here, so I don't see them a whole lot. If I do, I certainly will say hello. But yeah, I've seen a lot of kids over the years that say thank you and sometimes I don't even remember their names. I hate to say that you don't even remember what you've done with kids or for kids because, yeah, well, you know you just do it naturally.
Speaker 1:Yeah, with as many kids as you've probably impacted, you know hard trying to remember one name now is.
Speaker 2:It's probably hard, it's always difficult. But not you know, in education, I think that obviously you you're in contact with a lot of people, whether they're adults, whether they're kids, I mean, there's always going to be somebody. And over the years, you know, we are the half-century crew here, so we've seen and met a lot of people over the years. So it's one of those things that we can.
Speaker 3:By the way, that doesn't mean I've been in education for a half-century Correct, I have not either, only a quarter-century.
Speaker 2:I think, tagging off of what John said, I think that one of the things that I've always looked at is that as I've gotten older, it's kind of like you know you go out in the middle of the night, out in the backyard with your wife and you want to look at the stars, you know, and you see the Big Dipper, you see whatever you see. But then if you go out, you know, a week later on a nice clear night, they're not in the same place. Those North Stars kind of change where their position is. So when I've always looked at this kind of question when we were thinking about this earlier, mine's kind of changed.
Speaker 2:And as I got older, one of the biggest things that I've looked at is in our world, I think there's a lot of people that really have a lot of anxiety about a lot of things, and one of the things that I've learned is really I just need to do the best that I can to control things, that I actually have some control over, all those extraneous things that are always in our kids' faces and in our faces from social media and from the news and everything else. So many of those things we don't actually have any control or responsibility for. So I really try to live by the idea that I do the best that I can to control the things that I can and to do my best to make sure that I'm also listening to others and making sure that my focus is not tunnel vision. I really try to. In our intro I know we put that in there that we want to make sure that we can talk with people and have discussions without it being adversarial. It doesn't have to be.
Speaker 1:And that's a rare thing, right?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean it is, but you hear it so many times where it's this fight to the death over something that you think or that I think. And just because we both think of something differently doesn't mean that you're wrong and I'm right or vice versa.
Speaker 3:It doesn't mean anything.
Speaker 2:As we're sitting here, with you with an Ohio State shirt on, and me with a Michigan hat.
Speaker 1:I mean we can still be friends.
Speaker 3:Well, you got something on, I got something. Come on, john, let's not start the first show with that.
Speaker 2:But I think that that's, you know, really trying to be, if you want to say, a good human being, to really just be that person that can listen, that can learn. You know, I mean, I think as I've gotten older, my dad used to tell me all the time about common sense, but I think it took me a while to really figure out how to actually learn something. You know, there was hands-on. There was always that, like I'm a better learner when it's hands-on but I think that that listening part and really thinking about it is the way to do it and the way to learn and to grow.
Speaker 3:You know, we have two ears and one mouth, for a reason.
Speaker 1:We do, john, we have two ways to hear and listen.
Speaker 3:And really hearing and listening are a little bit different. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:I think we can hear a lot of things, right, you bet. And a lot of times, while we're hearing people talk, we're actually thinking in our mind how we can maybe come up with a different way of saying how we're right and it's it's. It's hard to actually listen and still, you know, say, okay, I may not agree with you completely, but we're still friends and we're listening without judgment Yep, yep yeah. Yeah, Ted Lasso has a great, great quote. It's a great show, but he has a great we're going Ted Lasso episode.
Speaker 2:Yes, he has a great show, but he has a great quote. We're going Ted Lasso in the first episode.
Speaker 1:Yes, Wow, he has a great quote that says don't be judgmental but be curious.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I just love that so anyways.
Speaker 3:He says it's from Walt Whitman. I don't know. I've searched and it's different people that it's attributed to. Well, I'm sure it's Apple. It's in Ted Lasso.
Speaker 1:That to. Well, I'm sure it's Apple, it's in Ted Lasso, that's for sure. That's their rendition of it.
Speaker 1:I think, when I think of a North Star, back when I was I don't know 16, 17 years old, I was reading the Bible and Psalm 37, 23 came up in that particular reading for that day, and it says the steps of a good man are ordered by the Lord and he delights in his way. Though he fall, he will not be utterly cast down, for the Lord upholds him with his hand. And so I guess my North Star is knowing that there will always be like whatever steps I take, I know they're being directed by the Lord. You know they're being directed by God and under his providence. Things are may not always be perfect, but they'll always be right at some point. It may not be comfortable, but they'll be right.
Speaker 1:And I think the guy that kind of really helped me process some of those things and was a guy named Rick Click, who was a high school teacher when I was growing up. Wait, what was his name? Yes, you heard it, rick Click. Yeah, and maybe he'll listen to this at some point. He'll probably see it out there somewhere.
Speaker 2:Well, if you are, Rick, welcome.
Speaker 1:Yes, absolutely. But he made a huge impact on me and kind of helped me develop with that North Star for life is going to be. And here we are, almost 40 years later.
Speaker 2:And I think it's funny that you say that, because I know that was one of the things that I was thinking about as we were talking about topics, and things to talk about were people that have had a huge influence in our lives, and in a meeting that we had a couple weeks ago we were talking about that and I remembered one of my teachers whose name his name was Mr Wire and he was a very soft-spoken but very direct teacher and he also had the best penmanship I'd ever seen for anybody up to that point, probably since then and he taught a class that was called Modern Communications Media and I was taking the class and I was kind of my high school educational career probably wasn't a whole lot of things to write home about as far as academics goes, but I remember writing a paper about something and he gave it back, handed it back a few days later and in red ink across the top it was Mr Peterson, the hole that you are digging for yourself is beginning to resemble the Grand Canyon, and I remember it hit me and I was like you know, I could probably do so much better at this if I really put my mind to it to do it, and I think his quote there kind of stuck with me Like it made me realize that, hey, somebody realized what my potential could be.
Speaker 2:Called you out on it and I wasn't even thinking myself of making myself or driving myself or being motivated enough to make myself better, but just that quote from him, I think, did a huge thing for me, to help me be motivated, and I think those are the kinds of things that we, as leaders, as we aspire to be leaders, I think that that's something that we need to do is find that somehow, with the people that are surrounded around us, to help them. Whatever it is, like John said, about helping people and about doing something, it's finding whatever that is for somebody, being able not only first to highlight it but then to get that person to understand it, which some people have a wall up, let's not lie. I mean, some people have a wall up and they don't want to hear it, but I think it's important for us to be able to do it.
Speaker 3:Understand it and then act on it. That's the hard part, is getting them to actually do what they need to do Walking the way of the Lord, doing your work in the way that you need to do your work.
Speaker 2:And I think it's important to even just saying that and thinking about it as I'm talking is that we still have to circle around to that and say we can try to guide somebody that way and we can do what we can, but again, whatever their perspective is, they might have something that we don't know about that's driving them in a different direction. So we need to be aware of that.
Speaker 2:We need to be able to say hey, you know what? I'm not going to force this person or push them. I'm going to continue to try to guide them if they want it or if it's my spot to be able to do it. But I think we always need to be cognizant that there's something, possibly, maybe whatever that they have going on in their mind or from their experience that's holding them back.
Speaker 3:And that's the listening part that you talked about earlier. You got to listen without judgment so that you can get to that trust. That trust and anybody can be a leader. Anybody in any part and anybody can be a leader. Anybody in any part of the organization can be a leader. Any part of the school can be a leader and give that influence by listening without judgment, helping that person understand where they are and helping that person get to where they need to be.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you know being in the I mean all three of us have been in the people business for a long time. I've not been in education, obviously near as long as you guys have from a public education perspective, but you know people a lot, you know manage people quite a bit over the years and I think that's exactly. I think we, you know you're nailing it, john, you know listening and and then you know acting on, you know that to try to build that trust with, with people. So, yeah, that was some. That's a good.
Speaker 2:I think we should probably get a little elephant out of the room here. I didn't know if it was going to be broached today, but we probably should, and just kind of let everybody know that all three of us work together.
Speaker 1:Yep, we do.
Speaker 2:We work in the same high school building.
Speaker 3:We all have different roles in that building school and that means folks we work with ninth graders who are 14, 15 through 12th graders who are 18, 19. And that's a fun age to work with. It really is. And it can be a challenging age to work with as well if you have any teenagers at home.
Speaker 2:So those things that you'll hear us talk from, that's some of our perspective. As you heard in the opening, we've all grown up differently different areas of the country, different faiths, different religions, a lot of different things but in our years together we've learned to be friends and we have a lot of engaging talks, and that's kind of where this was born was to be able to share some of those experiences with people and to get people thinking on a different perspective, on different things, and to open people's minds up a little to some stuff that maybe they hadn't thought about before.
Speaker 2:That's kind of what I was thinking, I mean if you guys agree, and I think that we kind of all did, and I think it's important for us to do that because now, in this modern age right, there could be people listening to this from wherever.
Speaker 1:The other side of the world for all I know who knows?
Speaker 2:Which is cool but scary all at the same time. But you know what it's neat to be able to have your voice heard and to hopefully you know, if we open up somebody's eyes, we open up somebody's eyes. It's all good. Hopefully we do.
Speaker 1:Wow, where'd all those people come from? I don't know. They're out outside the door, I think.
Speaker 2:I hope they're not really outside, because it's pretty cold out, but I know, as we are, as we had looked through some things I mean, we were talking about some other stuff where, where we had and, and just just as we've started this up and again, today is just kind of a get to know us and hopefully to get to you too, to know you as well, and if people commented on things, so we could kind of see where we were at. But one of our initial names was Bourbon and Banter, wasn't it? Wasn't that one of our names that we had talked about?
Speaker 1:I think we ran that around. That was one of them.
Speaker 2:We didn't want to center our whole basis of listeners around bourbon Right, but that does flow once in a while.
Speaker 2:Occasionally, absolutely Occasionally it does, and that's good, but it's something where, again, we wanted it to be a place where people could come and talk and just be open about things and talk about things. And so one of the questions that we had talked about was a hypothetical situation. But we're all married guys and we enjoy spending time with our wives, and we just came up with a little hypothetical where you walked into a nice bar with your wife and it'd be weird if this actually happened here, since I don't live anywhere close to where I grew up but you happen to see a friend from high school and he comes over and offers you and your wife a drink that he'd pay for. So, john, what do you think if he said that? What would you order and what would you order for your wife?
Speaker 3:for your wife well, because I know my wife really well, I would order her a sweet drink, and something she really likes is moscato. So they didn't have a Moscato, we'd figure something else out.
Speaker 2:So it's probably wine.
Speaker 3:Moscato is what she would do. Okay, Not necessarily always wine, but Moscato is a good start. For myself. I would order a Blue Moon. I'm kind of a craft beer type of person. Uh, with the orange joy, I would have the orange yes okay, and usually I ate the orange before I drink the oh yeah, good, so that's, that's okay what I would order from uh a friend if they have offered me, okay, and my wife a drink.
Speaker 1:Yeah, chuck, what about you? Well, I would. My wife's drink would be Sex on the Beach. Oh, wow, yeah, absolutely Okay. That's a drink that she really enjoys and we've had it a number of times, and my drink would probably be a red uh, I think it's called red breast, is that right? It's a. It's irish whiskey, does that sound? Okay, yeah it's either red. I want to call it redhead, but I know that's um what's in the what's in the drink?
Speaker 3:irish whiskey.
Speaker 1:No, it's just an irish whiskey on the rocks I'll drink it neat or on the rocks, it depends depends on who I'm drinking it with.
Speaker 3:It's the brand. Yeah, I think it's called Red Breath, gotcha A buddy of mine.
Speaker 1:He had some at his house and we were sampling his many bottles of Irish whiskey, and that was one of them, so it was delicious.
Speaker 2:I do that sampling once in a while too. I have a friend that we change where we're at, either at my place or at his place, and we'll try to get different ones and test them and see. And there's some bottles that are still on the shelf that aren't the greatest, there's other empty bottles that wind up in the recycling bin.
Speaker 3:It just kind of depends. So, chuck, what kind of whiskey Is that smooth whiskey, or is that one that kind of goes no?
Speaker 1:So it depends. I mean, I don't know An Irish whiskey, I like a smooth Irish whiskey, smooth Irish whiskey. You know, if I'm not drinking Slane it's, you know, like a Jameson's Irish or whatever it's got a little bite to it though. It's got a little bite to it, you know, but it just it feels good. It's not like, doesn't taste like turpentine going down your throat. I mean it's not a bourbon, you know.
Speaker 3:Right right.
Speaker 1:It's a whiskey, so it's got to. You got to kind of get a taste for it.
Speaker 3:I always thought bourbon to me kind of tasted like what an ashtray smells like to me. I don't know why.
Speaker 2:It. Just I cannot get into know why I would tend to shy away from that. I do usually tend a little bit more toward bourbon as opposed to just whiskey. I mean, both are fine and I've found both with either, but I don't know. If I was at that bar my wife, I would get her an Amaretto Sour, and for myself I would probably get an Old Fashioned, and if they were able to, I would get a smoked Old Fashioned. I know, chuck, you and I have talked about this a few times.
Speaker 1:My son just bought me a kit to smoke Old Fashions. Oh good, good good and you have one, luke right.
Speaker 2:I had one, and it's currently inoperative but. I'm looking to purchase. I've seen a few different ones, so I want to try to maybe try out a few of those and see what I can find.
Speaker 3:And is that just a hood you put on? Yes, different ones.
Speaker 2:There's this place. Actually, a lot of times it's just a hood that goes over the glass and you have a torch of some sort. You put whatever flavor wood you have in the little holder and you torch it and it kind of seals the glass and it smokes in there. But there is a restaurant up in Sioux City that my wife has gone a few times when we go up there for events and they actually bring the smoked Old Fashioned to you out in a cake tray which, if you picture, a cake tray like with the big glass, with the glass thing over the top.
Speaker 2:They put it in the middle, so it's more a presentation than I probably would have in my garage, Sure, but it's there and it comes out and the smoke is all curdled inside and she kind of walks it out like a waiter holding it up in the air, and then pulls the top off and the smoke goes and everybody around you smells like they're at a barbecue or something, which is great.
Speaker 3:That's awesome.
Speaker 2:But it's good.
Speaker 3:That might be something I would try.
Speaker 1:I think you'd like it John.
Speaker 2:It'd be good. We've talked about where our venues are when we record and one of those or a couple of them might be out in the garage. I have a little establishment in my garage where I'll sometimes sit down and solve the world's problems and talk with friends and see what's going on, where I'll sometimes sit down and solve the world's problems and talk with friends and see what's going on, and you know, I think that it's one of those things that we can always figure out where we're going to go.
Speaker 2:I think one of the other questions that I had and again, this is just kind of you guys, all the listeners that are there, just learning about who we are and kind of what we are about but one of them was what's your favorite season of the?
Speaker 1:year. Oh, I'll jump all over this. So one of the things I really like to do is drive my Jeep. I have a Jeep YJ around and it's a it's a 92 YJ. I love it when the top is off, and so I take the top off in April, try to, and I try not to put it back on until November. This year it was like the second week in November I think I got to put back on. And so, all of that being said, my favorite time of the year is, you know, summer. For sure the hotter the better. I don't mind the heat, you know, uh, I just like, I like being around that thing. My wife and I go on different trips, you know, hit some trails. So, yeah, summer for sure for me. John.
Speaker 3:Boy, you know I have always lived in this same area and we're a place where we get all four of the seasons.
Speaker 2:Although lately, you know as, time goes spring seems to be getting shorter. I'm getting there.
Speaker 3:I'm getting there fall and spring both to me seem to be a little bit shorter and uh, around here my favorite season is actually fall, because it seems to be the weather is the nicest during the fall. It's cooler, sure. It's not as cold as winter. That the one season that I wish we didn't get to as as much is the winter, with the negative like we have today, yes, like we have today.
Speaker 3:But uh, I like the fall, I like the sports that happen in the fall. I like watching football, I like volleyball. I like those kinds of sports too, and just enjoy that weather in the fall. I just wish it would last a little bit longer. Spring I like too, but spring I love soccer, so I like watching soccer in the spring too, but spring it just seems to be. The weather around here is windy, it's cold, one day it's hot, one day it's rainy.
Speaker 1:It's yeah which is good.
Speaker 3:I mean, it's good for the, for the farmers, yeah john and I see eye to eye in this one.
Speaker 2:Fall is my favorite season by far, really. Uh, not just because of the sports I'm a huge football fan, but, uh, I also like to get out in the woods see the color. The colors are big for me and and, uh, we've actually, uh, my wife and I have tried. Um, I grew up in michigan, so there's a lot of color in michigan.
Speaker 2:I mean, here we're in the middle of cornfields, a lot right but, uh, lots of colors up there, and a few years ago we were driving through it was pretty much right at the height of the color season and we were just in awe and I hadn't seen it for a while.
Speaker 2:So we've actually purchased a few autumn blaze maple trees to get some orange in our yard and some things just at fall time to do that, to build a bridge between the green that we have all summer and then the brown that we have now, which is complete brown. Everything, the grass, everything. It's brown and drab.
Speaker 3:It is gorgeous, the colors I used to work at a middle school over in omaha and and um, I had a perfect view out my window of all the colors that would change in the in the fall, and you could see it change day to day. Yeah, yeah, and that's one of my favorite things great I don't mind winter so much.
Speaker 1:I just don't like if we're gonna have cold, I want to have snow yeah, I mean I agree with you cs lewis says um, you know, in his uh lying the witch in wardrobe, he talks about how it's always winter but never christmas. For me it's always winter but never snow is like miserable, yeah it is.
Speaker 2:It's kind of I don't want to say depressing, but it is kind of depressing because it's just, you're just freezing. I mean it's cold, cold, cold. Yep, and this morning was was crazy.
Speaker 3:This morning it was it was pretty darn cold, but uh, I, uh, I am not a big winter fan.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm not a big, like I said, with snow. I could. I could hack it more if there's snow. Yeah, you know, because I also like to go ice fishing, so you've got to have some cold to be able to do that. But the snow helps me a little bit At least. It's like okay, well, I got something here Plus that's good for the grass and the tree and everything else. Right now we're still in a drought, but now they're calling it a snow drought.
Speaker 1:So we go from one coming to the close of this first episode. Yeah, I think we're there.
Speaker 2:And one of the things that I know we had talked about was that I always like to I'm kind of big on quotes and I like to throw quotes out once in a while from some of them might be that we don't know who said the quote initially, but some of them we do know. And this one was from an author, hg Wells, which I'm sure you guys are both aware of, and it basically was just a kind of an uplifting one that I've always used. It was you know, if you fell down yesterday, stand up today. Oh that's good, as we're all in education that there's days where it wasn't the greatest day, or I didn't do my best today or some things kind of got in my way. But you come back to school the next day and you're ready to go because there's a lot of people that are counting on you, a lot of kids that are waiting for you, and it's one of those deals Deion Sanders even mentioned that not too long ago.
Speaker 2:He might have a bad minute or a bad hour or even a bad, you know, a couple hours, but he never has a bad day. I think that's a good thing to kind of live by, to just keep it positive and to go forward. And even though it's negative, two outside right now, you know we're smiling, we're here. Chuck's got a big game tonight. Yes, we do Big game. Chuck's got a big game tonight. Yes, we do Big game, big national championship game, oh yeah.
Speaker 2:And you know, I've got mine on today because my flag is still outside, because we, in terms of the University of Michigan, are still national champions until tonight, yep. So my flag is out, it will be down tomorrow. I will not be flying the next flag of whoever the next one is.
Speaker 1:But you know I'll be willing to say that we are no longer the national champions because somebody else won and which is great. You know which is good. So yeah, I think I tipped my hand a little bit on the quote that I really like. It's that one from ted lasso. Um, you know, be curious, not judgmental. I think that's just a good, especially in you know our day and age and what I do. Now it's easier to to come in and you know when you're dealing with students or people in general and kind of have that man, that person's in a school or whether it's in a church or at the convenience store or at Menards or wherever you know.
Speaker 1:You'd never know what kind of day people are having. They could, just, you know, have a significant loss. It could be doing something you know really great, or whatever. But you know, be curious. You know, be curious, don't, don't be so judgmental. Um, I think it's a a good thing to live by.
Speaker 3:Huge. I got one that I have had for several years. It's trust the weight, embrace the uncertainty, enjoy the beauty of becoming. When nothing is certain, anything is possible, and that's Mandy Hale is who it's attributed to and I. Just. Over time, we all get to a point where maybe things aren't quite as certain as we'd like for them to be, and so getting to the point where you can stand back up and move forward and trust that weight.
Speaker 2:Right. Was that the doorbell that just went off?
Speaker 1:I don't know. I think we maybe just tipped our hand where we're recording.
Speaker 2:Oh, we might have. Yeah, yeah, that's right, all right.
Speaker 1:All right guys.
Speaker 3:Have a wonderful day today and evening, Whenever you're listening to this. We appreciate your help and listenership. Do we want them to?
Speaker 1:So here's, I think, ways you can help build the show. I mean, this is literally the ground floor, Just obviously like subscribe to the podcast If you have questions. We do have an email halfcenturypodcast at gmailcom, so we got that set up Right now. That's the way we're set up to receive questions and reviews or tips.
Speaker 2:Now you said that they could like the podcast. Right Like, they could like it or subscribe. Is there a way that they can love it?
Speaker 1:oh man, I don't know, maybe there's a love button there might be.
Speaker 2:If there's not, we should make one.
Speaker 3:I mean really, you know yeah, gotta well, this is half century hangout. We appreciate you hanging out with us have a great day, folks.
